2018 Sea-Doo vs. Yamaha vs. Kawasaki

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Shopping for a jet ski can be confusing at times. Each manufacturer is saying one thing about the competition, and you don’t know what to believe.

But I think I can help. I have gone through every watercraft in every category and compared them all. Hopefully, this can help you make a better buying decision or find the watercraft that best suits your needs. I think having a third party that is not a manufacturer pointing things out can be helpful in this shopping adventure. Who knows you might find the best jet ski brand that suits your needs in this guide.

I’m not being paid by any dealership or jet ski manufacturer to write this review post. I try to write as level as possible on this topic but I know Sea-Doo Products more deeply than all the other manufacturers, and I want to make that clear to those reading this. Please don’t stop here at my post to make your buying decisions but also look more deeply at what the manufacturers say on their sites. Everything posted here is my opinion and my viewpoints.

The 3 Watercraft Manufacturers:

Sea-Doo

Yamaha

Kawasaki

Rec-Lite

Rec-Lite is the newest segment of the watercraft world. Sea-Doo created the Spark back in 2014, and that is what started the whole category. When the Spark came out they were in high demand because of the price, and since supply was low they were hard to get. 4 years later they’re easier to get ahold of, and now you have many more color options along with many new upgraded features they’ve added to them.

Yamaha entered this category back in 2016 with the EX and put up a good fight against the Spark. Yamaha doesn’t have a model that competes with the base model 2 Seater Spark, but they go hard on the base model 3 Seater.

The range of price goes from $5,399 for the 2up 60HP Sea-Doo Spark and all the way up to $8,699 for the Yamaha EX Deluxe.

Unfortunately, Kawasaki doesn’t have Rec-Lite models. There has been talk about them working on something, but I think Sea-Doo took them both of them by surprise with such a concept. The Sea-Doo Spark did rejuvenate the watercraft world because they were getting too big and too expensive for too long.

Last year I did a great post that compared the Sea-Doo Spark to the Yamaha EX that went into great details on them here. Much of what was said in that post still holds true for 2018 and is a good read if you want to compare the two. To sum up the post, Yamaha doesn’t have a 2 seater model to compete with the base 2up Spark. The base 3 seaters EX is better than the base 3 seaters Spark. Sea-Doo just kills it when it comes to price and features when you compare the most expensive Spark vs. the most costly EX. It’s so bad that the Sea-Doo GTI is a lot better value than the EX Deluxe for a few hundred more.

Rec-Lite Overall Details

You can expect speeds from 40mph to 50mph.
2 seater or 3 seater options.
Very nimble and quick.
Great first-time buyer’s jet skis.
Great prices.

Pros of Spark

Polytec hull makes it extremely light compared to the competitor.
Modular design makes it easier to replace top deck pieces.
More color options.
Some models have iBR (intelligent Brakes and Reverse).
Some models have DESS Key with learning key. The learning key keeps the ski from going past 35mph. DESS is a digitally encrypted security system.
Better thought out storage. The EX has more storage capacity, but the front storage is almost useless. The Glovebox on the EX is a great size but not big enough for storing life jackets or anchors. And the rest of the storage on the EX is under the seat which is stupid as you have to get everyone off the seat to use it which is impossible when on the water. The Spark hands down has a lot better thought out storage.
The base model 2up Spark and the Fully loaded 3up Spark are far better values than the EX’s.

Cons of Spark

No Mirrors.
Smaller Gas tank than the EX, but the Spark is lighter and has a less hungry engine.
Lower HP engine, but the Spark is lighter.
Smaller storage, but better located and can fit more important things better like anchors and life jackets.

Pros of EX

Can get mirrors which are excellent for tow sports!
Some models have RIDE (Dual throttle and reverse which can also act as a brake).
Some models EX have nicer padded footwells.
Bigger gas tank.
More storage.
More HP, but the Waverunner is heavier
The Base EX is just a plain good value compared to the base 3up Spark.

Cons of EX

The EX Deluxe cost far too much compared to its competitor 3up 90HP Spark iBR with Conv.
Has more storage but just not thought out, check out the Pros of the Spark above to understand better.
Bigger gas tank. A bigger gas tank means fewer fill-ups, but I feel this negates it as the EX is bigger and has a hungrier engine. I could be wrong but Yamaha doesn’t publicly state the gallons per hours for the EX, and I feel it will be more to fill up a 13.2 Gallon gas tank on the EX compared to the 7.9 Gallon gas tank on the Spark.

Con’s of ALL Rec-Lites

All their seats suck. There I said it. If you want to ride for more then an hour, then you’re going to need some cushion. This might not be a problem for younger people who want a ski that can be whipped around but if you want something stable and a soft ride – move away from this segment.

Since we’re talking about stability let me just say this, these are small watercraft. They’re fast, lightweight, and super nimble. If you don’t want to get wet, then don’t get these.

But the biggest take away from the Rec-Lite category is that for average size people a 2-Seater is a 1-Seater, and a 3-Seater is a 2-Seater. Let’s be honest with ourselves. I’m over 240 pounds, and you get 2 of me on a 3-Seater spark or EX it’s going to be a crazy ride.

Since there are 2-Seater options, you have to be aware of your local laws about pulling tubes and wakeboarding. Many states and countries require either a 3 seater with one person driving, one person spotting, and one person on the tube or wakeboard. If it’s a 2-Seater, then you need to have mirrors but can only have one person driving and one person on the tube. If you have a 3-Seater with mirrors, then you can have 1 person driving and 2 people on the tube. They do this because you need enough room on the watercraft in case someone gets hurt you can get them to safety.

Important: If you do any pull sports like tubing and wakeboarding then look into getting an Impeller Protector like this here*. This will help keep you from sucking up tow ropes!

Spark Trixx Vs. Nothing

The Spark Trixx is something of its own. No other manufacturer makes something like the Trixx and deserves its own category, to be honest.

A Trixx is for someone who wants a super playful watercraft that you can do, well… tricks on.

The Trixx is based on the regular spark but has a special VTS(trim) that allows you to stick the craft in the air like you’re doing a wheelie. It also has adjustable handlebars that make this movement a lot easier along with the foot pads.

What changed in 2018 is the color options and now you have a 3up version too.

Recreation

The Recreation category is the next step above the Rec-Lite category. This category is where you start to see a lot more stable watercraft, but you also trade off the nimbleness (not by much – all watercraft are playful if you have it in the right settings).

Many of the rental watercraft you ride are simply Recreation models, so if you rode a rental jet ski, there’s a good chance it was a Recreation model.

Recreation Overall Details

More stable than the Rec-Lite.
Speeds are ranging from 42mph to 62mphs* (we talk more about this below).
More storage and many of the recreation models have the most storage out of the other more expensive models.
Not the fastest but makes a great family skis.
Don’t take the chop as well as the other bigger models do.

The Recreation Lineup

Sea-Doo – GTS, GTI, GTI SE 130, GTI SE 155, GTI Limited 155

Yamaha – VX, VX Deluxe, VX Cruiser, VX Cruiser HO, VX Limited

Kawasaki – STX-15F, Ultra LX

To help better understand which one competes with the other I’m going to compare them on which ones are priced similarly.

GTS vs. Nothing

It looks like the Sea-Doo GTS is all by itself if we compare it to the other Recreation category watercraft. The closest thing that comes into price would be the EX Sport but that is in the Rec-Lite and, to be honest, the EX Sport would be the better buy in my opinion.

A GTS is a GTI but without the brakes and reverse. The GTS is often popular for the rental market as its a stable hull with plenty of storage. But if it were me I would go with the smaller EX Sport unless you do a lot of pull sports then the GTS would be the better option.

GTI vs. Nothing

Basing everything on the price the GTI is by itself. Unless we look at it vs. the EX Deluxe. Sure the EX Deluxe is $200 less than the GTI, but the GTI is a way better value. The GTI is going to be more stable and has more storage too.

I was going to compare the GTI to the VX, but the VX is $700 more and the same price as a GTI SE.

GTI SE vs. VX vs. STX-15F

Sea-Doo GTI SE $9,599

Yamaha VX $9,599

Kawasaki STX-15F $9,699

The most prominent outlier in this group is going to be the STX-15F for two reasons. The first reason is that Kawasaki has not come up with there own electrical brake or electrical reverse system. The second reasons are that the STX-15F kills it in top speed. This watercraft use to be Kawasaki’s top of the line in speed back in 2005 with reaching speeds of 62mph! But it has not changed much since then. While Sea-Doo and Yamaha have been making great strides in tech, Kawasaki is slow to adapt.

Beyond speed, the Kawasaki STX-15F can’t compete too much with the Sea-Doo GTI SE and Yamaha VX. But if you want something fast and affordable then check out the STX-15F in greater detail here.

Please keep in mind: Only the Sea-Doo’s with the 90HP ACE engine will have the Ploytec hull!

Sea-Doo GTI SE Pros

Greater Storage Capacity.
iBR (Brakes, Neutral, Reverse, Forward).
Learning Key that can be programmed from 32mph to 50mph.
Sport, ECO, and Touring Mode.
Reboarding Ladder.
Electronic Trim.
Touring Seat.
Palm Grips.
Polytec hull for the 90HP GTI SE. Ploytec makes the craft lighter than the competition.
Better Gas Mileage due to the lighter hull and more efficient smaller engine.
600-pound capacity.
3 Seater.
DESS Key, the digitally encrypted key which is also your safety lanyard.
Closed Loop Cooling. It uses a ride plate to keep the engine cooled instead of taking in lake or ocean water.

Sea-Doo GTI SE Cons

90HP engine means you’ll be doing around 42mph. Enough to pull tubes and such but you’re not going to be winning races.
The Smaller gas tank then the others but it’s also a lot more fuel efficient.

Yamaha VX Pros

Bigger Gas Tank.
Faster than the 90HP GTI SE.
RIDE, Dual throttles for forward and reverse that also can act as a brake.
Reboarding Step.
Lighter than the STX-15F.
3 Seater.

Yamaha VX Cons

Open Loop Cooling. It takes in lake or ocean water to cool the engine.
Less storage capacity. VX has 24.6 Gal while the GTI has 30.8 Gal. But has more storage than the STX-15F with it’s 23.5 Gal.
Heavier than the GTI.
Uses Yamaha’s old Hull tec, the NanoXcel hull doesn’t come in til the VX Deluxe and saves a bit more weight too.

Kawasaki STX-15F Pros

Fastest of the bunch.
Tried and proven.

Kawasaki STX-15F Cons

Hasn’t changed in years.
Small storage.
Manual Forward and Reverse.
Open Loop Cooling.
Less weight capacity.
Cost slightly more than the GTI SE or the VX.

Sea-Doo GTI SE 130 Vs. Yamaha VX Deluxe

I know this one can be kind of confusing. There is a difference between the GTI SE vs. the GTI SE 130. The biggest differences will be that the “GTI SE” will be a 90HP engine with a Ploytec Hull and the 130 will have a 130HP engine with a fiberglass hull. The VX Deluxe will also have a different hull too.

Sea-Doo GTI SE 130 $10,499

Yamaha VX Deluxe $10,399

Sea-Doo GTI SE 130 Pros

Greater Storage Capacity.
iBR (Brakes, Neutral, Reverse, Forward).
Learning Key that can be programmed from 32mph to 50mph
Sport, ECO, and Touring Mode. ECO really helps with gas consumption and is a feature that many others models lack.
Reboarding Ladder.
Electronic Trim.
Touring Seat.
Palm Grips.
600-pound capacity.
3 Seater.
DESS Key, the digitally encrypted key which is also your safety lanyard.
Closed Loop Cooling. It uses a ride plate to keep the engine cooled instead of taking in lake or ocean water.
About the same speed as the Yamaha VX Deluxe at around 53mph.
Touring Seat.

Sea-Doo GTI SE 130 Cons

Heavier than the VX Deluxe.
Smaller Gas tank the VX Deluxe.

Yamaha VX Deluxe Pros

NanoXcel Hull makes it lighter while still being a fiberglass hull compared to the basic VX. Not lighter than the Sea-Doo Ploytec hull but still impressive for fiberglass!
About the same speed as the Sea-Doo GTI SE 130.
Larger gas tank. Has 18.5 Gallon gas tank compared to the GTI SE 130 15.9 Gallon gas tank.
Remote control security fob with the low-speed mode. The low-speed mode is like the learning key on Sea-Doo’s where it restricts one speed for new riders.
Cruise Assist and No-Wake Mode.

Yamaha VX Deluxe Cons

Open Loop Cooling. It takes in lake or ocean water to cool the engine.
Less storage capacity. VX Deluxe has 24.6 Gal while the GTI has 30.8 Gal.

Yamaha VX Cruiser Vs. Nothing

The Yamaha VX Cruiser is a Waverunner that I don’t know why it exists. It’s $10,699 which is $300 more than the VX Deluxe. The only thing I can find why it’s $300 more is because of seat and color options. To be honest, Yamaha should have dropped this model and just given the better seat to the Deluxe and be done with it.

I don’t know if Yamaha is trying to compete with the GTI SE 155 because all GTI SE have the nicer seat option, but it’s not on the same level. The GTI SE 155 is a 155HP while the VX Cruiser would be 125HP. When it comes to price, the GTI SE 155 better competes with the VX Limited.

Sea-Doo GTI SE 155 Vs. Yamaha VX Limited Vs. Kawasaki Ultra LX

This is kind of a sweet spot for us here. All manufacturers have something really great to offer.

Sea-Doo GTI SE 155 $11,099

Yamaha VX Limited $11,099

Kawasaki Ultra LX $11,199

Sea-Doo GTI SE 155 Pros

155 HP engine. Even though the spec sheets say the GTI SE 155 and the Ultra LX have the same top speed, I think its safe to say the GTI SE 155 is going to be the fastest out of the bunch due to the lighter weight. This 155 HP engine is the perfect pull sports engine, has plenty of low power you need for pull sports and is why it’s used in the Wake Series which are made for pull sports.
iBR (Brakes, Neutral, Reverse, Forward).
Second highest storage capacity.
Learning Key that can be programmed from 32mph to 50mph
Sport, ECO, and Touring Mode. ECO helps with gas consumption and is a feature that many others models lack.
Reboarding Ladder.
Electronic Trim.
Touring Seat.
Palm Grips.
600-pound capacity.
3 Seater.
DESS Key, the digitally encrypted key which is also your safety lanyard.
Closed Loop Cooling. It uses a ride plate to keep the engine cooled instead of taking in lake or ocean water.
Touring Seat.

Sea-Doo GTI SE 155 Cons

Smaller Gas Tank then the bunch.
Lack of Cruise Control and Slow Speed mode.
Lack of tube and accessories that the Yamaha VX Limited has.

Yamaha VX Limited Pros

Tube with Accessories.
Cover.
RIDE, NanoXcel Hull.
Security / Low-RPM Mode Remote Transmitter.
Cruise Assist/No Wake Mode.
Cruiser Seat Stepped.
Reboarding Step.
Waterbottle Holders.
Single-rider tube.
Storage Bag.
12-Volt Tube Inflator.
Dual Bumpers.
Just a good buy, you get a lot of stuff with it.
Large Gas Tank.

Yamaha VX Limited Cons

Smaller Engine. This is an excellent value for a ski, but they shouldn’t have put the smaller engine in it. It will pull fine, but a bigger HP engine would have made this a killer buy.
The VX Cruiser HO and the Limited should be combined, that Cruiser HO has the right engine, and the Limited has the right accessories, combine these two and you’ll have a beast!

Kawasaki Ultra LX Pros

It’s got the Ultra Hull, so it’s going to take the chop a lot better than the others.
The most storage of any watercraft in any lineup. Period.
Plenty of power for pull sports and actually has more HP than the VX limited and Sea-Doo!

Kawasaki Ultra LX Cons

It’s heavy! (they measure curb weight) But its something that helps with rough water.
Manual reverse. Some might find this a positive as it has no electronics to break but braking tech has been around since 2009 with the Sea-Doo iBR, and I feel many of the bugs have been worked out.
Lack of accessories that the VX Limited gets.

Yamaha VX Cruiser HO Vs. Sea-Doo GTI Limited

In my opinion, the VX Cruiser HO and the VX Limited should have been one jet ski. The VX Cruiser HO has the engine that the VX Limited should have and making them one unit would have made a great machine! Making them one machine would really give Sea-Doo a run for there money on the Wake 155 and would technically put the combo in the Tow Sports Category.

But what it looks like to me is that Yamaha is trying to compete with the Sea-Doo GTI Limited. While the Yamaha beats the GTI Limited in Price, it fails at features that the GTI Limited has.

To be honest, it doesn’t feel like they’re competing with each other as the GTI Limited is trying to be a luxury jet ski and the VX Cruiser is trying to be a faster recreation jet ski.

I wanted to have the GTI Limited in the Luxury category as there is nothing at its price from the other manufacturers to compete with it and is a winner. And then the VX Cruiser HO I didn’t want it to have a direct competitor since I firmly believe that the VX Cruiser HO is a unique combination of power and recreation.

So we got two winners here. But each one in their own right.

With that, I’m going to leave it open to you. If all you care about is wanting a fast recreation Waverunner, then look at the Yamaha VX Cruiser HO. If you want Luxury with a bunch of useful accessories at a great price, then look at the Sea-Doo GTI Limited. Other than that I don’t think these skis are even playing on the same field, but both don’t have anyone to play against so that is why we’re here.

Yamaha VX Cruiser HO Features

RIDE.
NanoXcel Hull.
Security / Low-RPM Mode Remote Transmitter.
Cruise Assist/No Wake Mode.
Cruiser Seat Stepped.
Reboarding Step.
Waterbottle Holders.
65 MPH.

Sea-Doo GTI Limited Features

iBR.
Sport Mode.
Touring Mode.
ECO Mode.
Learning Key.
Reboarding Ladder.
Touring Seat.
Cover.
Safety Kit.
Dry Bag.
Time / Distance to empty.
Attitude indicator.
Cruise Control.
Slow mode.
High-Performance VTS.
Palm Grips.
Luxury Color Scheme with matching the seat.
RF Key DESS.
55 MPH.

Tow Sports

Tow Sports is an exciting category because only Sea-Doo is in it right now. We talked above about how Yamaha could quickly come in the category with combining the VX Cruiser HO engine with the VX Limited features but have yet to do it.

In this category, we have the Sea-Doo Wake 155 and the Sea-Doo Wake Pro 230. Fundamentally these are the same ski except for 2 big things that separate them – The hull and the engine.

The Wake 155 is excellent for someone who does pull sports like tubing and wakeboarding on the weekends and just needs something affordable to do it on. The Wake Pro is for someone who’s more into the sport and needs a lot more stable watercraft and an engine that is more than powerful enough to lift any person out of the water.

Features like Ski Pylon to get the rope up higher and away from the pump, Ski-Mode, Cruise Control, Slow Speed Mode, Programmable Learning Key, Electronic Trim, and so on are pretty much the same on the two. You also have the Wake Board holder that you can use to keep the wakeboard out of the way.

The Wake 155 is going to cost $11,999 while the Wake Pro is going to cost $14,699.

Is the Wake Pro worth the extra cost? Yes. Without a doubt, it is worth it for the seat, ride, and power that the ski delivers.

Also, the great thing about the wake series I’ve found from the years of selling them is that they have excellent resale value because of all the features you get with it stock. They also sell out quickly and 2018 for sure because the color looks perfect this year.

If you’re not sure what ski to get or if you even like the sport a Wake 155 is a great ski to get into if you have the money as it has a little bit of everything Sea-Doo offers at a great price.

Important: If you do any pull sports like tubing and wakeboarding then look into getting an Impeller Protector like this here*. This will help keep you from sucking up tow ropes!

Sea-Doo Wake 155 Features

iBR.
Sport Mode.
Touring Mode.
ECO Mode.
Fiberglass Hull.
Learning Key.
Reboarding Ladder.
VTS(trim).
Cruise Control.
Ski-Mode.
Ski Pylon.
Wakeboard Holder.
Palm Grips.
RF DESS Key.

Sea-Doo Wake Pro 230 Features

ST3 Super Stable Hull.
iBR 3.0.
ECO Mode.
Sport Mode.
Touring Mode.
Learning Key.
Deeper-Wider Reboarding Ladder.
VTS(trim).
Cruise Control.
Ski-Mode.
LinQ Ski Pylon.
Wakeboard Holder.
Direct Access Front Storage.
Ergolock Seat.
Water-tight Shock-proof phone storage box.
Tilt Steering.
Integrated Cleats.
LinQ Attachments.
Palm Grips.
RF DESS Key.
Largest Swim Platform in the Industry.
Super Charged.

Towable Tube: The Wake Series don’t come with a towable tube, but if you want my opinion on a good tube then check out the Big Mable Towable here on Amazon.*

Luxury

Up next to choose from is the Luxury Category. This line of watercraft are more for people who have owned watercraft before and now want the most comfortable and stable they can get. This line also can contain the biggest engine that each manufacturer sells so pretty much you get the best of everything in this category.

To make things better to understand I’m going to bleed some performance watercraft into this list as some manufacturers consider a very similar jet ski to be a luxury while the same ski, in my opinion, is more race and visa versa. I’m going to reserve the performance category below more for the racing series of watercraft.

Sea-Doo GTX 155 Vs. Yamaha FX HO

These two watercrafts are what I call the Goldie Locks of the watercraft world. They’re in the middle, not too slow, but not too fast. Not overly complicated but not simple. Not a lot of accessories but far from the fewest. They’re just stuck in the middle.

If someone came to me and said they just don’t know what to buy I would tell them to start here and either work there way up or down. Both the Sea-Doo and Yamaha have a tried and proven engine in them that if you ask me are bulletproof. Both are big and stable but the GTX is going to be more stable, and a better ride but the FX HO is going to have it in a race.

Sea-Doo GTX 155 $12,799

Yamaha FX HO $13,299

Sea-Doo GTX 155 Pros

ST3 Super Stable Hull.
iBR 3.0. (brakes, reverse, neutal, forward)
Sport Mode.
Touring Mode.
ECO Mode.
Learning Key.
Deeper-Wider Reboarding Ladder.
High-Performance VTS(trim).
Direct Access Front Storage. (Pictured Above)
Ergolock Seat Stepped.
Tilt Steering.
Integrated Cleats.
LinQ Attachments.
Palm Grips.
RF DESS Key.
Cruise Control.
Largest Swim Platform in the Industry.
Lighter weight than the FX HO.
More Stable than the FX, can board from the side!
Watertight Phone Box Compartment – This is very useful!

Sea-Doo GTX 155 Cons

Smaller Gas Tank.
Slower than the FX HO, about 5 to 7 MPH slower.
Less Overall Storage Capacity.
Wish it had the rear trunk storage for tow ropes like the FX HO has.

Yamaha FX HO Pros

RIDE. (Dual Throttle, forward – reverse and can act like a brake)
NanoXcel Hull.
Security / Low-RPM Mode Remote Transmitter.
Cruise Assist/No Wake Mode.
Cruiser Seat Stepped.
Dual Mirrors.
Electronic Bilge.
Reboarding Step.
Waterbottle Holders.
Tilt Steering.
Faster than the GTX 155.
Bigger Gas tank by 2.6 Gallons.
That rear trunk storage for ropes is quite clever!

Yamaha FX HO Cons

Open Loop Cooling (this may be a positive to some, but to me, it’s not if you live near salt water, my opinion).
The way you access the front storage is clunkier than the GTX.
Cost more.
Doesn’t have the robust new lounge seating that Sea-Doo now has.
No easy way to attach an extra fuel tank or storage box. (Not a huge deal unless you make long trips)
Heavier by 61 pounds to the Sea-Doo GTX 155.

I think Sea-Doo blindsided the industry with such drastic innovations with the new storage access, more stable hull, the ability to create a lounge, LinQ system, and even the smartphone storage compartment that it’s pulling hard towards Sea-Doo for me. I know I’m a Sea-Doo fan but you must admit Sea-Doo is thinking outside the box when it comes to watercraft. Not saying Sea-Doo is perfect, I even wrote about the ugly things they’ve done this year here. But I’m loving the GTX 155 for 2018!

Sea-Doo GTX 230 Vs. Yamaha FX Cruiser HO

The GTX 230 or the FX Cruiser HO is for someone who likes comfort but also speed. The GTX is slightly faster, but the FX Cruiser HO is not slow. If you can’t pick between these two when looking at them on paper, then I recommend sitting on them to see which one better suits you as both are winners.

Sea-Doo GTX 230 $13,899

Yamaha FX Cruiser HO $13,799

Sea-Doo GTX 230 Pros

ST3 Super Stable Hull, you can board from the side!
iBR 3.0
Sport Mode.
Touring Mode.
ECO Mode.
Learning Key.
Deeper-Wider Reboarding Ladder.
High-Performance VTS(trim).
Direct Access Front Storage.
Ergolock Seat Stepped.
Water-tight Shock-proof phone storage box.
Tilt Steering.
Integrated Cleats.
LinQ Attachments (Can Expand the storage or gas).
Palm Grips.
RF DESS Key.
Largest Swim Platform in the Industry.
Super Charged.

Sea-Doo GTX 230 Cons

Smaller Gas Tank than the Yamaha.
Super Charged, This can be a positive or a negative depending on who you asked, so that is why it’s in both places.
No Electronic Bilge but does have bailer tubes.
Slightly less storage but it is easier to get to.
No beverage holder.

Yamaha FX Cruiser HO Pros

RIDE.
NanoXcel Hull.
Security / Low-RPM Mode Remote Transmitter.
Cruise Assist/No Wake Mode.
Cruiser Seat Stepped.
Electronic Bilge.
Reboarding Step.
Waterbottle Holders.
Tilt Steering.
Trim.
Pull Up Cleats.
Beverage Holder.
Bigger Gas Tank.
Bigger overall storage.
Not Super Charged.

Yamaha FX Cruiser HO Cons

Slightly slower than the GTX 230.
No lounge seating like the ST3 (RXT and GTX Hull) have.
Weighs slightly more.
Harder to get to the front storage from a seating position. This is one of those things you don’t realize how much this sucks until you do it enough and try to get to that one thing at the bottom of the storage.
Not Super Charged, This can be a positive or a negative depending on who you ask, so that is why it’s in both places.

Kawasaki Ultra 310X SE Vs. Yamaha FX Cruiser SVHO Vs. Sea-Doo Limited 230

In this category Yamaha steps it up in power and tech, Sea-Doo gives you a lot of useful accessories and features, and Kawasaki gives you a ton of storage and the most stock HP.

Kawasaki Ultra 310X SE $15,799

Yamaha FX Cruiser SVHO $15,999

Sea-Doo GTX Limited 230 $15,899

Kawasaki Ultra 310X SE Pros

Cruise control.
5mph mode.
fuel economy assistance mode.
Adjustable Handlebars.
56-Gal Front Storage.
Slo-Mode Key.
Cruiser Seat.
Trim.
The Most Stock HP in the Market.
310HP, the other 2 are under 300HP.
Manual reverse (some people find this a plus)
The largest gas tank of the bunch.

Kawasaki Ultra 310X SE Cons

It’s the heaviest one by a good bit (they measure curb weight)
No braking system.
Lacks all the extra accessories and features that the Sea-Doo GTX Limited gets. It’s a lot.

Yamaha FX Cruiser SVHO Pros

RIDE.
NanoXcel 2 Hull.
Security / Low-RPM Mode.
Dual Remote Transmitter.
Cruise Assist/No Wake Mode.
Cruiser Seat Stepped.
Dual Mirrors.
Electronic Bilge.
Reboarding Step.
Waterbottle Holders.
Tilt Steering.
Trim.
Pull Up Cleats.
Super Charged.

Yamaha FX Cruiser SVHO Cons

Lacks all the extra accessories and features that the Sea-Doo GTX Limited gets.
The most expensive of the bunch.

Sea-Doo GTX Limited 230 Pros

ST3 Super Stable Hull.
iBR 3.0.
Sport Mode.
Touring Mode.
ECO Mode.
Learning Key.
Deeper-Wider Reboarding Ladder.
High-Performance VTS(trim).
Direct Access Front Storage.
Ergolock Seat Stepped.
Water-tight Shock-proof phone storage box.
Tilt Steering.
Integrated Cleats.
LinQ Attachments (can increase storage and gas capacity with this).
Palm Grips.
RF DESS Key.
Largest Swim Platform in the Industry.
100-Watt Bluetooth Speakers w/ Controls.
Cover.
Dry bag.
Safety Kit.
Cruise control.
Slow mode.
Soft Knee Pad.
Depth finder.
Altitude indicator.
Water temperature.
Storage Bin Organizer.
Carpet with Wood Pattern.
USB Charger.
Super Charged.
Oddly enough it’s the lightest watercraft of the bunch even though it has all these extra accessories.

Sea-Doo GTX Limited 230 Cons

No electronic bilge like the Yamaha has.
The smallest gas tank of the bunch.
The smallest storage of the bunch.

Sea-Doo GTX Limited 300 Vs. Yamaha FX Limited SVHO Vs. Kawasaki Ultra 310LX

These watercraft are the top dogs out of each manufacturer, they’re the best of the best. If you enjoy the best things in life, then these are the ones to pick from.

Sea-Doo GTX Limited 300 $16,899

Yamaha FX Limited SVHO $16,899

Kawasaki Ultra 310LX $17,999

Sea-Doo GTX Limited 300 Pros

300 HP.
iBR 3.0.
Sport Mode.
Touring Mode.
ECO Mode.
Learning Key.
Deeper-Wider Reboarding Ladder.
High-Performance VTS(trim).
Direct Access Front Storage.
Ergolock Seat Stepped.
Water-tight Shock-proof phone storage box.
Tilt Steering.
Integrated Cleats.
LinQ Attachments (can increase storage and gas capacity with this).
Palm Grips.
RF DESS Key.
Largest Swim Platform in the Industry.
100-Watt Bluetooth Speakers w/ Controls.
Cover.
Dry bag.
Safety Kit.
Cruise control.
Slow mode.
Soft Knee Pad.
Depth finder.
Altitude indicator.
Water temperature.
Storage Bin Organizer.
Carpet with Wood Pattern.
USB Charger.
Super Charged.

Sea-Doo GTX Limited 300 Cons

Doesn’t have the towable tube like the Yamaha.
Doesn’t have the bumpers like the Yamaha.
Doesn’t have the rear storage compartment as the Yamaha has.
The smallest storage capacity of the bunch.
The smallest gas tank of the bunch.

Yamaha FX Limited SVHO Pros

RIDE.
NanoXcel 2 Hull.
Security / Low-RPM Mode.
Dual Remote Transmitter.
Cruise Assist/No Wake Mode.
Cruiser Seat Stepped.
Dual Mirrors.
Electronic Bilge.
Reboarding Step.
Waterbottle Holders.
Tilt Steering.
Trim.
Pull Up Cleats.
Beverage Holder.
Super Charged.
Matching Single rider Tube.
12 Volt plug.
Dual Bumpers.
Dry Bag.
Lightest of the bunch.

Yamaha FX Limited SVHO Cons

No Sound system like the other two.
No Depth Finder like the Sea-Doo.
No soft knee pad or Ergo styling like the Sea-Doo.
Missing a lot of the little accessories that the Sea-Doo has. But Yamaha did a better job at giving you accessories for tubes that Sea-Doo did not.
Lacks the ability to turn into a lounge-like all Sea-Doo’s with the new ST3 hull (All GTX and RXT models).
It’s harder to get to things in the front storage compared to the Sea-Doo.

Kawasaki Ultra 310LX Pros

Sound System(60-Watt Speakers).
Cruise control.
5mph mode.
Fuel economy assistance mode.
Adjustable Handlebars.
56-Gal Front Storage.
Slo-Mode Key.
Cruiser Seat.
Trim.
GPS Holder.
The Most Stock HP in the Market.

Kawasaki Ultra 310LX Cons

The most expensive watercraft on the market.
The heaviest watercraft of the bunch (curb weight).
No braking system, still has forward, neutral and reverse.
Lacks all the extra’s that Sea-Doo and Yamaha are giving with there watercrafts.
It’s harder to get to things in the front storage compared to the Sea-Doo.

Performance

The real point of this guide is to help new people and people looking to buy but don’t know what to buy. You have now gotten to a point where these watercrafts might be a little too much to new people and honestly, should avoid unless your goal is to become a racer.

The GTR and VXR are not that bad but are up there in racing style.

Another thing about this category is that the people most likely to read this already know a good bit about these machines already. So it would be kind of pointless for me to write about them. Instead, I wrote some blurbs about them, but if you have a particular question about them, please feel to comment below. If enough people give enough questions, I might do a whole post on these.

GTR Vs. GTR-X Vs. VXR

If you want something fast and nimble but don’t want to pay a lot, then these 3 are the ones to look for.

The battle is really between the GTR and the VXR. The GTR-X is a more race-ready version but has the same GTI hull as the GTR does. But the GTR-X has an ergo-lock seat like the more powerful RXP-X 300 and the GTR-X has many of the same features of the RXP-X but like I said it has the GTI bottom hull instead of the T3 hull of the RXP-X.

Even though I’m a big Sea-Doo guy, the VXR is the one that stands out to me. It’s a naturally aspirated engine which means it doesn’t have a supercharger like the GTR has and tops out at the same top end too. What also helps is that it’s lighter weight than the GTR.

With the GTR-X it has all the race settings like the seat, handlebars, and Gauges that make it feel more like a racing machine – but it’s also got a bigger price on it too.

RXT 230 Vs.

The RXT 230 has become an oddball for 2018 and maybe should not have been made? It’s very similar to the GTX 230, but the GTX 230 to me is a great value. I don’t say this easily as the RXT is my favorite ski that Sea-Doo makes, but it’s not the same machine anymore. They gave it less power and stripped it of the luxury features that I loved like cruise control and a reboarding ladder. It’s a stripped down, different color and different seat GTX 230. If anything it’s a racing style GTX 230 with a better color scheme if you ask me.

If anything it’s a racing style GTX 230 with a better color scheme if you ask me.

Kawasaki Ultra 310X Vs. Yamaha FX SVHO Vs. RXT-X 300

These 3 Jet Skis are the racing models of the 3 seater realm. These watercraft do well in straight line racing and are very fast.

If you have never ridden a watercraft before then, these might not be the best for you. Sure, they do have features to let you better control the machine and keep it from going too fast but that’s like giving someone cake and telling them only to take small bites – you know how it ends.

GP1800 Vs. RXP-X

I won’t be going into great details about these two machines for the simple fact is if you’re new to the sport or have never ridden such powerful machines you should not get them.

Another reason is there are a lot of die-hard fan bases with these two machines that the racers and their fans already know plenty about them. This guide is more for new people are people looking at the different models. These two are NEXT LEVEL!

Not only the power these machines put out, which is the same engine in many of there other models, but it’s the hull that is vastly different. Like the RXP-X has a T3 hull that doesn’t handle like the RXT-X. The RXT-X can take the chop and straight line a lot better. The RXP-X will turn on a dime and needs to for races. It’s jumpy too, because of the hull and a new rider might not understand why it won’t find a line at 30 MPH when tubing and that’s because it’s not made to go 30 MPH it’s made to do 60MPH and then turn into a corner.

Learn More About Closed Loop Cooling vs. Open Loop Cooling

You may have noticed I talked a bit about closed loop cooling and open loop cooling. There exist two styles that watercraft use to cool the engine. Yamaha and Kawasaki use open loop cooling, and Sea-Doo uses closed loop cooling. If you want to learn more about it I have a post on it here.

Color Options

This guide is based purely on stats and specs to see which watercraft is better than the other and to see which one suits your needs better.

The bad news is that you only get specific color options, the specs you like might not match the color you want.

Where Do You Go From Here?

Before you buy a jet ski, you need the correct gear, accessories, and tips.

Here is another guide on the things to wear.

And if you’re really new to the sport then check out my Beginners Section of the Website Here.

Jet Ski Accessories List

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103 thoughts on “2018 Sea-Doo vs. Yamaha vs. Kawasaki”

Aaron Fauth

September 30, 2020 at 6:55 pm

Hi Steven I know it’s 2020 but if your reading this I like the 2018 gauges better so how come the 2018 gtx 155 has the single gauge and the 230 and limited models have the analog and digital gauges? Is it the horsepower or the limited package.
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- Steven
  
  October 1, 2020 at 2:07 pm
  
  The higher-end models got a better gauge. You’re not missing much as the simple gauge on the GTX 155 tells you the same stuff.
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Jason

January 19, 2020 at 1:20 am

Steve can you recall if the mirrors on a gtx 230 are adjustable or are they fixed
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- Steven
  
  January 19, 2020 at 11:41 am
  
  They would be fixed.
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Emil Herbák

July 14, 2019 at 3:10 pm

Hi Steven, I own a 2015 RXT X 260 with only 20 hrs on it, but would like to upgrade to a 300 HP model. A BRP dealer offered me a 2018 RXT X 300 in ice metal/lava red for a really good price. When do you think will the 2020 line up be presented by BRP? Or is there any innovative R&D on its way you might already know about? Thanks in advance! Emil
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- Steven
  
  July 15, 2019 at 11:18 am
  
  The new models will come after summer, but if you can get a leftover model for sure go with that one! I seriously doubt they’ll add anymore HP and the body is not going to change for a few more years since it’s so new. The only thing that might change will be the color and maybe the gauge. The 2018 will have more rebates and will ride the same as the 2019.
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Mark

July 5, 2019 at 7:23 pm

Need an opinion. My older GP1300 is a blast on calm days which might occur once or twice a year on Lake Michigan. My new VX Deluxe is much more comfortable in the usual messy 2-3 foot chop, but a bit slow. Any thoughts on a faster but still more comfortable ride? FX too long for fun? VXR or GP1800?
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- Steven
  
  July 6, 2019 at 11:11 am
  
  The VXR will be the same hull as your VX but with a lot more powerful engine. As for the GP1800 it takes that to a new level, not for the faint of heart. If it was me I would for sure get the VXR!
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TJ

March 28, 2019 at 3:14 pm

I’m in the market for a Kawasaki STX 15F and would use it for waterskiing. 190 lb. male as driver/spotter and skiier. Is that realistic… that a STX 15F could handle that? Water would be Severn, South and Magothy Rivers near Annapolis, MD.
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- Steven
  
  March 29, 2019 at 11:06 am
  
  It should handle it, the STX 15F has the most HP in its category.
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Robert Evans

February 7, 2019 at 8:45 am

Great article. Very detailed. What would you consider the best PWC for a rental business in saltwater ?
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- Steven
  
  February 7, 2019 at 10:33 pm
  
  Everyone likes to go with the Yamaha VX but I’m a fan of the GTI 130. You can’t go wrong with either one.
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Conk

January 29, 2019 at 4:39 pm

Great article! I’m having a hard time deciding on two different PWCs. I’m looking for something fun that I can toss around, and has the speed for when I want it. I’ve rode mostly old skis and nothing really new. Looking between GTR 230 and GP1800R difference in price is around $2000. Can you still toss the GP around. I tend to lean towards Yamaha but I do like the looks of the GTR more. Like the engine of the GP more. Help! Mostly be riding in small lakes.

Thanks!
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- Steven
  
  January 29, 2019 at 8:16 pm
  
  The GP1800R is very tossable. The GP1800R is more muscle and fast while the GTR is more comfortable and slightly slower. I also have overviews of the 2019 models too https://www.steveninsales.com/2019-sea-doo-vs-yamaha-vs-kawasaki/
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Al

September 10, 2018 at 10:05 pm

Hi Steven,
Now that the 2019 models have been announced, I have a dilemma. In looking to purchase my first PWC, I thought I found the right specs in the GTX 230 LTD. The major issue I have is that I cannot stand the Equestrian Brown colour. If I go with the blue model (not LTD) I would end up spending more to get all the accessories that the LTD models come with. I can’t believe they kept the same colour scheme from 2018. The only change I could see is the new display.
As for the 2019 Yamaha FX Cruiser, well they seem to have done some great things for this year. I am impressed with the look (predominantly white), the new touch screen, new hull and expandable options.

I do enjoy music and would have bought the built in stereo on the GTX (which I am sure is better sounding than any detachable speaker that Yamaha has).

What is your opinion of these 2019 models side by side?

Thanks in advance.
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- Steven
  
  September 10, 2018 at 11:05 pm
  
  If I was in your shoes I would go with the NON-LTD GTX 230, either 2018 or 2019. I would prefer the 2018 model as the rebates and promotions will be the best for it and I would add the stereo option too. A lot of the extra accessories you get with the LTD are not that amazing. Like the depth finder only works well when at idle. You still get the same ride and comfort as the LTD but for a cheaper price. The only other thing I would add is the cover.
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Chuck

August 31, 2018 at 6:21 pm

Thanks for all he info. The 2015 was best to heck so passing on that ski. My kids will be primary users and we will be on a lake with very little big waves/chip. I’m picky and want a used ski “like new” so may go with the VX Cruiser HO. I really like the storage on the FX but can’t justify the price difference and having a hard time finding a “like new” used one. Should I wait it out for an FX? I’ve read a lot of good comments on the VX HO so hoping that will satisfy………thanks for all the input.
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- Steven
  
  August 31, 2018 at 6:49 pm
  
  The VX HO is a good machine and you can’t go wrong with it.
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Chuck

August 31, 2018 at 12:55 pm

I’ve narrowed it down. 2018 VX Cruiser HO with 5 hours on it new condition and 4 year extended warranty or 2015 FZS SVHO with 5 hours on it – no warranty or 2015 FX HO with 14 hours on it. I get them impression the FXS is more of a race ski? I’m leaning towards 2018 unit but could get the 2015 for about $3k less. Thoughts?
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- Steven
  
  August 31, 2018 at 4:22 pm
  
  The 2015 FX HO would be what I would go with. Better ride and plenty of power and storage. Since its August I would also shop around the 3 nearest dealers to see if they have any 2017 models since 2018’s were just released. This is when you’re going to find the very best deals on 2017 models.
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Chuck

August 27, 2018 at 11:24 am

Been shopping for a ski and I’ve narrowed it down to 3 and need your advice. I’ve found a 2016 GTR 215 with 24 hours for $8k with trailer, a 2016 Wake Pro 215 with 23 hours (listed for $11k with trailer – haven’t negotiated yet) and a 2017 Wake 155 with 29 hours for $9300 with trailer. I’ve been bouncing back and forth on supercharged vs non. Don’t need the speed but think I’ll regret it if I don’t get one with it. Also a little concerned with maintenance on the supercharged engines? Advice would be appreciated.
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- Steven
  
  August 27, 2018 at 9:20 pm
  
  Those two supercharged Sea-Doo have very low hours, so need now to worry about supercharger maintenance anytime soon. You should only worry about getting the supercharger worked on at the 200-hour mark. For me personally, I would go with the Wake 155 because it’s at a better price and its a good all around jet ski. The Wake Pro is next in line only because of the bigger and more stable body. If you care more about a more plushy ride go with the Wake Pro. If you want the most bang for your buck go with the Wake 155. If you want a small ski with a big engine go with the GTR. Above all else, have a shop look at the one you want to buy before buying it just to make sure its good.
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Martin

August 9, 2018 at 1:29 pm

Hi and thanks for this awesome article and replying to everyone. I have seen the Spark Trixx last week at the cottage and lover the look. The guy was also pulling kids in tubes. I want something for the whole family and want to have all around fun around the cottage. I’m not looking for crazy speed also as my kids will ride as well. Do you recommend the Trixx 3-seater? or just a regular Spark? It will be in salt water as well. Not sure if I should opt for the bigger GTI but I think the Trixx would do the trick for us! lol
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- Steven
  
  August 9, 2018 at 4:34 pm
  
  I wouldn’t get the Spark Trixx unless you really love the look of it or need the special VTS it has for doing tricks. The regular Spark 3up will be fine for most people and a great jet ski to get you started in the jet ski world. If you ride where it gets really choppy a GTI model will be a better ride, something like the 130HP will be a perfect blend of price, comfort and pull sports.
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Ryan Zenko

July 22, 2018 at 10:19 pm

I got the GTX 155. Took it out today! Love it sooo much! Now after riding in salt water I actually have another question. I read your “how to clean” but I have one friend saying to hose the entire engine compartment with fresh water. I have another friend saying not to do that unless salt water actually gets inside the engine compartment. What do you suggest? I’m terrified of salt haha. Thank you so much!
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- Steven
  
  July 24, 2018 at 10:23 am
  
  I only rinse off when I’m leaving the beach or salt water, will also use salt-away to flush. I wouldn’t rinse after every ride that would be too much. Your second friend is right, rinse it off every so often.
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Cathy McMillan

July 22, 2018 at 9:52 pm

Thanks so much!
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Cathy McMillan

July 21, 2018 at 12:43 pm

Hello Steven,
This will be our 1st PWC. We only have a couple priorities, the 1st is me being able to slalom ski and the 2nd is pulling one of our teenage sons on a tube. It will mostly be used by myself and my husband, both in our mid-fifties, every other weekend or so. We won’t be getting crazy out there. BUT our sons will take them out every now and then too. We also don’t want to invest a lot of money because we would really like to get two. We’ll need a trailer, new jackets, etc. too. It will always be rode in brackish water in N. FL. Any advice you get can give is greatly appreciated, thanks!
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- Steven
  
  July 22, 2018 at 6:36 pm
  
  Sounds like the Wake series will be your best bet, to save money you can get the Wake 155. You can also add the ski pylon to any of the bigger model’s like the GTX or RXT if you like the bigger body but don’t want to spend the extra for the Wake PRO – something like a GTX 155 would be a good in the middle ski between the Wake 155 and Wake Pro.
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Ryan Zenko

July 18, 2018 at 6:21 pm

I am torn between the Sea Doo Wake 155 and the Yamaha VX Limited. I live in Tampa so it will be primarily salt water and towing is key. The wife’s family is very persistent on Yamaha being a better more reliable machine. God help me if the sea doo has issues down the line.
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- Steven
  
  July 19, 2018 at 10:24 pm
  
  Looks like you’re in a pickle. If towing is key the Wake is the winner, but having people always looking for the slightest flaw in the Sea-Doo will get annoying after awhile. It’s like Ford vs Chevy or Mac vs PC – people will always find something. The good news is that the Wake has the 155HP engine which if you ask me is the most bulletproof engine they ever made. The other good news is if you go with the VX is that you can be the one to point at all the little issues it has. The real take away from is that both options you can not go wrong on, in fact, get the family to go to a dealership and sit on each one to make sure it fits all your needs for comfort and storage.
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Andrew

July 18, 2018 at 10:17 am

Thanks Steven, I appreciate your input. Being s previous seadoo owner with only good experiences it’s a though decision. The Yamaha is looking like a good choice though, is the ride system close to as good as IBR?
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- Steven
  
  July 18, 2018 at 5:04 pm
  
  RIDE is close but not fully iBR. RIDE feels more like having two throttles, one for reverse and the other for the forward. But with practice, it’s not that bad but I find new riders take to iBR a lot quicker.
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Andrew

July 17, 2018 at 7:19 pm

Hi Steven,

I see above a few discussions on the GTR 230 VS VXR. I am also looking at both of these and see you have given the VXR the win here, my question is around the hull. The reviews I have read have the GTR hull being more playful, being able to slide and spin while the VXR being a carving machine. I am after something a bit more playful would I still be able to do this with the VXR?
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- Steven
  
  July 18, 2018 at 9:43 am
  
  Yes, the VXR will be playful when you want it to be. Its design more for the racing feel while the GTR has the easier going body from the GTI. Both will be fun to play around on.
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Adrian

July 11, 2018 at 9:32 am

Hi Steven
Looking at buying a PWC for skiing, wakeboarding and general recreational use. This is our first jetski and want a good all rounder.
Currently looking at the Seadoo WakePro 230. Wondering what your thoughts are on this PWC and if you would recommend any other brands over the WakePro?
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- Steven
  
  July 11, 2018 at 9:51 am
  
  I think the Wake Pro 230 is a great option, no other manufacturer besides Sea-Doo have a Wake-Type model. They’re really good sellers because of all the features you get. It also has a big enough engine that you won’t feel like your missing anything. It’s a good ski, can’t recommend it enough.
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Mandy

July 11, 2018 at 2:56 am

Well after doing quite a bit of research and what not I have decided to go with the Sea Doo Rxt X 300! I will be waiting to see what colors come out in the 2019 models though. Not too fond of the 2018 colors but if I had to choose one of the 2018 ones it would be the yellow one. Crossing my fingers for a green or blue one this upcoming year. Thank you for all your tips and advice ?
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Pete

July 10, 2018 at 8:52 pm

2018 STX 15F! Is an amazing PWC, do not over look this machine.
My family has years of riding our 1997-2002 SeaDoo’s (GTX, XP, GTI) two strokes around.
I love my SeaDoo’s, they are fun, small and often reliable. Top speed at elevation of 4,100 above sea level has always been around 42-45MPH. 42-45 MPH is perfect for new riders, experienced riders, cruising, having fun in big waves or calm waters. Our heavier larger GTX dominates the huge waves while the ride on the XP and GTI is more challenging.
We have learned over the years the very best PWC at the lake is the one that is running when you want to go out…. I have recently become tired of being a mechanic on vacation, so I started researching the best 2018 PWC for my family. Criteria used;
1. Reliability/warranty
2. Fuel economy
3. Safety
4. Fun
5. Speed
In my opinion the STX 15F won and here is why.
1. Can anyone beat the 60 month extended warranty? The 1500cc fuel injected 4 stroke engine, normally aspirated should last a very long time as it is the base engine for Kawasaki’s supercharged 310HP monster. The STX does not have bells ands whistles, less stuff to break.
2. 1500cc fuel injected can provide for a long ride on less gas than many. Last weekend we took a four hour ride and the fuel consumption from our STX and 720cc GTI was very close to the same. If you are looking at a ski that has a button for fuel economy watch out.
3. This PWC will shock you on how fast it is. There is a slow and fast key provided. The mirrors and reverse are helpful.
4. If you want a thirteen foot boat this PWC is not for you. Being a shorter PWC means all the time you are just playing is more fun then a PWC that is HUGE. The STX has amazing 0-30 time under two seconds! The STX works well for cruising, playing in the big waves and racing. I do not know of another PWC hull design that has won more races.
5. Speed GPS measured at 62MPH! Dang this speed is now a bit scary. I raced an Ultra 310 last weekend and yes he pulled away from me in a straight line, probably 70MPH. Back in the cove and playing in the huge waves I had way more fun than him. With the STX you will not need to upgrade to a more performance or fun PWC in two years.
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Mandy

July 9, 2018 at 10:47 am

I have a question. As far as the speakers go have you heard the ones Sea Doo has? That was another sell point for me on the Kawasaki 310lx until I found out Sea Doo also has a sound system. I think it’s even more Watts than the Kawasaki. I am thinking of getting the 2018 gtx 230 after doing more research. But I’m still up in the air. I want a fast powerful machine that I can jump small waves (on the river) and be able to pull a tube and one that isn’t going to have a ton of issues.
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- Steven
  
  July 9, 2018 at 5:28 pm
  
  The GTX 230 is a great option and you can get the speaker system with it. It’s quite loud and works just fine. I haven’t had the speaker system of both together to compare but both systems are very good by themselves. A 230 HP engine is more than enough for pulling tubes, so much so that Sea-Doo sells the Wake Pro with a 230hp engine and it’s made for all kinds of pull sports. Even the 155hp will pull a tube just fine. The best bet will be going to a dealership and see how you fit on each model, maybe even ask if they do test rides. You’ll be surprised by how much power these things have even for a base model if you’ve never ridden one much before.
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Gus

July 7, 2018 at 11:44 pm

Sorry forgot to mention, Steven, how about the reliability between the two skis GTR & VXR
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- Steven
  
  July 8, 2018 at 10:23 am
  
  I would say reliability on the two is about the same. The VXR would take the lead because it has less moving parts because it’s missing a supercharger. But the new ACE engines that Sea-Doo is using are very good and well thought out engines, I was there when they released the new ACE300 to the world and the tech and thought processes that went into that engine were next level.
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Gus

July 7, 2018 at 8:26 am

Hi steven

I am trying to decided between a 2018 grt 230 and vxr yami, lam hearing that the gtr hull is not as stable as the vxr and that the power of both are the same, but gtr requires more maintenace dur to the sc.
Is correct and which would you choose.

Tnanks
Gus
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- Steven
  
  July 7, 2018 at 10:57 am
  
  Both will do the same speed and I find the GTR hull to be more stable but the VXR hull to be more sporty. The 2018 GTR has the “maintenance free” supercharger but they still recommend letting a pro look at it after 200 hours which is a lifetime of riding for most people. Even though I’m a big Sea-Doo guy the Yamaha VXR is the winner in this segment. Less moving parts and able to get enough power out of the engine without using a supercharger is amazing. If you want power in a small body the VXR is the winner but I find the ride, seat, and storage better on the GTR.
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Nadim Nsouli

July 3, 2018 at 6:01 pm

Well done on an amazing review. May i please ask you a couple of questions. I am looking for a wave runner for the Bahamas and would like to use it for Wake Boarding. Unfortunately the dealer there does not have the Sea Doo Wake Pro 230. The 3 Sea Doo options he offered that he said he could provide the accessories to wake board on are 1) GTX Limited 230; 2) RXT X 300; 3) GTR 230.
Can you tell me which of the three you recommend i buy (or another brand)? Thanks so much!!
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- Steven
  
  July 4, 2018 at 11:20 am
  
  I personally would go with the GTX Limited 230 as that would be the closest to the feel of the Wake Pro. Plus, you get the limited accessories with it which are great! The RXT-X would be too much power for pull sports and the GTR is in the smaller body.
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  - charles
    
    July 4, 2018 at 3:18 pm
    
    Steven, Thanks for a great write up and all the responses. Its 4th of July man! get away from the PC and go ride. 🙂
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Caleb

June 28, 2018 at 8:48 pm

Great article, thank you.
I can get the GTI SE 130 and the VX Deluxe for basically the same $ from the dealership.
PWC will be used in FL, so salt water is a concern. I understand maintenance, flushing, winterizing is key. That being said, which one would you choose and why?
thanks!
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- Steven
  
  June 29, 2018 at 9:52 pm
  
  This one is going to come down to how you fit on the machine. I’m a big Sea-Doo fan, but if you sit on it and it doesn’t fit your body and the Yamaha does then go with the Yamaha. Both are a great machine and you can’t go wrong with either one especially if they’re priced the same.
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Lisa Smith

June 26, 2018 at 1:38 pm

Hey Steven: I have a 13 and 17 year old (both boys) and am wanting to get them their first jet ski. Which do you recommend for the first time? (I like the learning key option and the braking) Also, since I am a woman going into a dealership on my own, any suggestions so that I am not taken advantage of? I want a fair price for TWO skis, double trailer and warranty.
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- Steven
  
  June 26, 2018 at 5:49 pm
  
  The first thing you want to do is check out the local laws for age and if they need to take a boater safety course. Boater safety is very important especially for new young riders. For there first watercraft I would recommend a Sea-Doo Spark with iBR. The Spark is going to be great on gas and it’s super playful without being too powerful. I like them so much that I own a 3up Spark myself. The iBR is a must have for better control around the docks and to give them brakes when on the water – it can get crazy out there.
  
  To get the best price possible it would be best to do everything over email. Try to get a price from the 3 closest dealerships and just have a price war, don’t forget price should not be the only factor but what that dealership can do for you. I rather get a free cover or service than a few dollars off, and not only that buy from a dealership I trust and have good vibes from. Price can be a double edge sword for the Spark especially during the heat of the season. Sparks don’t have much markup, so it’s going to be hard to find some dealerships droppings prices if at all. You do get more wiggle room in the higher cost machines though. Email levels the playing field and really the only time to go into the dealership is either to check the machines out in person and to take delivery/pay for them.
  
  The topic of how not to get taken advantage of got me wanting to write a post on it, there is a lot to cover.
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  - Lisa Smith
    
    June 27, 2018 at 12:03 pm
    
    Thanks for your advice. One more question….Even if I ride occasionally and need a smoother ride (cause I am old) and don’t want to get bounced around a lot, would you still recommend the Spark?
    I will be interested to see your post on getting an honest and fair deal. It will be especially helpful for ladies who are buying on their own. Again, thanks for your help.
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    - Steven
      
      June 27, 2018 at 9:55 pm
      
      The Spark is going to be more of a wetter ride then other jet skis but it’s not that bad if you take it easy and avoid the wakes of bigger boats. The only real problem you’re going to run into is the seat, it’s not very comfortable after riding for an hour. But if you ride occasionally it shouldn’t be much of a problem at all. One tip I would give to new riders is to get some riding gloves. I know it sounds crazy and may seem odd but when you’re new you’re going to have a death grip on those handlebars and blisters will form. Plus, gloves give you better grip since everything is wet. I have a good post explaining this more here https://www.steveninsales.com/blisters-grip-best-jet-ski-riding-gloves/
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J T.

June 25, 2018 at 8:26 pm

Nice write up. After going on a friends 04 GTX Supercharged I am interested in a my own PWC. I’ve looked at the spark and the trixx… but I’ve also found a low hour (74) 06 RXT. The small nimbleness of the spark is definitely interesting but not sure how it feels compared to that 04 GTX. I never went above 50.. lakes don’t seem calm enough around this area.
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- Steven
  
  June 26, 2018 at 10:41 am
  
  The GTX would feel like a truck compared to the Spark. The RXT would ride the same but have a ton more get-up-and-go-power and be more playful too. I personally would consider the RXT, only after it’s been proven that it has the new supercharger shims and has been serviced, only because it would be more comfortable and faster than a Spark. If you like the ride of the 04 GTX but don’t want all that power and want to keep cost down then look at any model GTI from 2012 to now as it has a very similar hull and size.
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Chris

June 3, 2018 at 10:08 pm

besides being great for towing and wakeboarding Will the Wake 155 be a good cruising ski too.?
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- Steven
  
  June 3, 2018 at 10:16 pm
  
  Yes, It’s a good all-around watercraft.
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Bill

June 2, 2018 at 6:17 am

Steven this was really useful. I’m completely new to this, but have a new property with a boat berth out the back. I want a JetSki – I will be able to jump on and take off. Saltwater. We have 3 kids and I want to tow them. I want it all (luxury, space, audio, features and fun) – whatever the cost (I’m lucky it is not an issue for me). I would also just like to cruise around on my own. I just saw the 2018 sea-doo Limited GTX 300 and fell in love. It’s a gorgeous machine. I want to buy it. Then I read your review and it got me worried. Is it too powerful for a beginner? I’m very sensible, but I’m not gunna kill myself with it am I ?
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- Steven
  
  June 2, 2018 at 12:52 pm
  
  Great question. No, you’re not going to hurt yourself on the GTX LTD 300 because it has the biggest engine you can get. It’s like a luxury car with a big engine, sure it’s powerful but it’s also tame. You have 3 different modes, you default to “Touring Mode” every time you start the engine. In Touring Mode the machine is laid back and super easy to manage. You also have ECO Mode which is like touring mode but has a limited top speed and gives you great gas mileage. And of course you have Sport Mode which is full power, to get in this mode you must hold the Sport button down and confirm it again. Not only that you get two keys, a Normal Key and A Learning Key. Learning Keys limits the top speed and is in Touring Mode all the time, its the perfect key to learn the ropes on. You’ll be fine on the GTX LTD 300, it’s an amazing machine. When I tell beginners to stay away from 300 I’m talking more along the lines of the RXP-X 300 – With its engine and Hull it’s on a different level than anything else. Just like with any watercraft or boat don’t be silly and be smart out in the water. Keep mind the 300’s have forced break-in mode so you won’t be at full power for a few hours anyway so that is plenty of time to get used to it. Also, watch out when you start getting comfortable with the power you’ll want more and more 🙂
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Dave

May 30, 2018 at 2:00 am

2018 GTI SE 155 vs Yamaha VX Cruiser HO? Local dealer has them for the same price and I’m torn between the SeaDoo’s tech, trim, and ability to keep me dryer vs Yamaha Waverunner in general. However I like the engine of the VXHO. Thoughts?
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- Steven
  
  May 30, 2018 at 10:11 am
  
  This is a tough one for sure. The only thing I know to do is go and sit on each one for at least 15 minutes to see which fits your body the best. You can’t go wrong with either one.
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  - Dave
    
    June 4, 2018 at 1:41 pm
    
    Going to go with the VX Cruiser HO!
    
    Last question. I purchase a November 2013 SeaDoo Move I trailer from someone, but after getting home and measuring my 2018 Yamaha 3 seater will be approved 18” longer. I google images of trailers with PWCs and am seeing that most have the longer trailer that runs the entire length of the 3 person PWC while some use an older 2 person sled with the same 1.5 feet hanging over. Is it ok to use a shorter trailer? The one I purchase is rated at 1,250 pounds so max weight should be fine.
    
    Thoughts?
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    - Steven
      
      June 5, 2018 at 7:37 pm
      
      When it comes to trailers you want about 10 pounds on the tongue (front) of the trailer. This is to keep it from bouncing lose, it’s rare but I’ve seen some bounce off the ball of a truck because the trailer was too tongue light. This is also why the safety chains are important too. You also want the 10 pounds on the front to keep the trailer from smacking you in the face when getting it off the ball (happened to me way too many times). Since its a Sea-Doo Move Trailer you can side the front crank back and forth to adjust the weight, it should be a 9/16th deep socket. It becomes a balancing act, so to be on the safe side put blocks under the rear of the trailer and the front to keep it from slamming in either direction. Back when I used to put these trailers together I made a template, wish I still had those template measurements. The safest bet will be to let the dealership your getting your new machine at balance the trailer for you, if they’re anything like me they’ll have it down to a science. If that trailer doesn’t work out for you look at Triton Aluminum Trailers, they’re the best in the industry and last for a long time.
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Chris

May 16, 2018 at 6:01 pm

Hi, I’ve been researching the Sea Doo GTX 300 Limited. I am really leaning toward getting this machine over the Yamaha FX Limited. I have heard some things on different forums about cracks in the hulls or cracks in the gel coat after a hard day of riding. Have you heard or seen anything like this for yourself? I’ve also heard people say that Sea Doos sink. How is this even possible if the 2018s don’t even roll over. I’ll be riding which ever machine I chose in salt water and may get it into the ocean for some wave jumping. I don’t want to have any problems with cracks. I’ll also be using it to pull the kids around the bay on a tub. I’m really looking for an all purpose machine that I can count on with whatever I chose to do. I want the machine that will provide the most fun for me and my family without costly problems arising every year. Reliability is a huge factor in my choice also. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks
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- Steven
  
  May 17, 2018 at 12:06 am
  
  I haven’t heard of cracks or problems with the gel coat. Usually, when there is a crack or fiberglass damage its user error and many people don’t want to admit it or the kids do something and they don’t want to get in trouble. The truth is that you’re going to hear from people having issues no matter the brand. These people make the most noise as they have nothing better to do as there machine is broken, but the people having no issues are busy enjoying their machines. It doesn’t matter if its a jet ski, a car, an Xbox or whatever there will always be someone with some issue. What matters when buying a jet ski is the dealership and the warranty they give – if you don’t get the warm fuzzies from them or don’t trust their service department then I would not buy no matter if it’s Sea-Doo, Yamaha, or Kawasaki. I personally would go with the Sea-Doo because I have a local dealership I trust and I know will be there to help me if anything goes wrong. I’ve also ridden more Sea-Doo then I care to admit and can count on one hand how many times I’ve had issues ( most of them were my own fault ). I say go with the Sea-Doo but if your local dealer doesn’t treat you right then I would go with a manufacturer’s dealer that does. Also, I got to say the new Hull on the GTX is quite sturdy, I’ve never felt anything like it. And the closed loop cooling is a must for the salt water riding and the radio with the dry box have come in handy.
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  - Chris
    
    June 4, 2018 at 1:18 am
    
    So I ordered the Seadoo GYX 300 limited. It should be here in a week or so. Now I’m looking for some solid maintenance tips. After riding I know you have to do the flush with fresh water and spray down the engine to get the salt off but do you recommend fogging the engine after each use? Also I’m not sure what all purpose lube spray to use. Some people swear by Fluid Film others say use the seadoo xps spray and that it’s the best. I’ve heard others say they use wd40. Not sure what to use or what to spray as to not harm wires and hoses. Also what’s your take on the salt away spray/solution? Thanks for your help.
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    - Steven
      
      June 4, 2018 at 12:26 pm
      
      You only fog the engine for long-term storage. Constant fogging can lead to foul spark plugs so only do it for long-term storage, like over the winter. Fogging creates a protective layer in the cylinders and engine to keep rust from forming. I use the XPS spray from Sea-Doo. You can use WD-40 but it’s not as thick and doesn’t last as long as the protective sprays from the manufacturers.
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Mike L

May 8, 2018 at 11:05 pm

Hi – Following up on my note from January 18th. Sea-doo GTI SE vs Yamaha VX Cruiser. What about the VX Cruiser do you not like? Also, my local dealer sells both Sea-doo and Yamaha, and feels the Yamaha Ride is a better system. At this point, leaning towards Yamaha…
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- Steven
  
  May 9, 2018 at 11:19 am
  
  The only problem I have with the VX Cruiser is that its the same as the VX Deluxe but it’s $300 more and the only difference is the seat. Sure, a nice seat can be worth the cost but they should have combined the two units instead of making it confusing with 2. Other than that it will be a fine machine and if you like RIDE tech better then for sure go with the Yamaha.
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Lynda

May 8, 2018 at 11:03 pm

I have a 2003 sea doo that I love. Yes it’s a 2 stroke, ugh- no one will touch it. Supposedly it’s been repaired and is running good I won’t see you until the end of the month people tell me to run not walk but run and get rid of it if it’s running good I have the opportunity to buy the 2018 Kawasaki never been in the water 310 with a brand new trailer and the five year warranty for 14 five should I do it
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- Steven
  
  May 9, 2018 at 11:12 am
  
  I personally would get rid of the 2-stroke and get a 2018 Kawasaki. A 5-year warranty is amazing too, you don’t see that often in the watercraft world. Just be careful, the 310’s are a super powerful machine.
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  - Mandy
    
    July 8, 2018 at 6:32 am
    
    I’ve ridden jet skis before but this will be my first one. I was looking at getting the Kawasaki 310lx. But you say be careful, does this mean I should get something smaller?
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    - Steven
      
      July 8, 2018 at 10:16 am
      
      If you rode another 300HP jet ski before then go for it, but if you have not I would maybe get something less powerful. 300HP jet skis are no joke and if you’re not used to the power you can get hurt especially if you have it in the fast key or performance modes. I only say this because of doing many test drives over the years and when someone gets there first jet ski that is not a rental unit they’re always surprised by the power it has, some never go over 30mph on their first time out. I can remember my first time out on a 215HP jet ski and thought it was crazy fast but over many, many rides I got used to it. Don’t let me stop you if you really love this ski, you can always go slow and get the feel of it and then rest assured you won’t need to upgrade anytime soon as that model is top of the line.
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Thomas Sparrow

May 5, 2018 at 3:26 am

The best way to find out which one’s hold up the best is to ask mechanics and that just happens to be Yamaha and that’s why I own two and I’ve had zero problems
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Mike

April 24, 2018 at 9:54 pm

Hi steven, lots of good comments, and learned alot by reading thru tbem.. I have a quick question.. I am looking to but a 2018 Seadoo GTX 155.. I have read issues on other sites about a plastic exhaust componet melting if the intake for the exhaust cooling becomes reatricted and the ski sinks due to the plastic melting and then filling the hull wirh water very quickly.. Have you heard of this?and has seadoo corrected this problem? Thanks

Mike
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- Steven
  
  April 24, 2018 at 10:07 pm
  
  That is a very old problem that only affected a few. The biggest issue the average person needs to worry about instead is user inflicted issues like sucking up ropes, rocks, and sticks. I personally consider the GTX 155 to be the “Goldilocks” of watercraft, simply the best all-around one they make.
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Denise Perasso

April 9, 2018 at 3:30 pm

Hi please help 1st time buyer here we looking for something that’s good for our family but that will also make our sons happy that are in there early 20’s. We were told by one dealer to go with the Kawasaki 301R they were trying to sell us 2017. Another dealer recommended a Yamaha Cruiser FX Cruiser needless to say we are confused. We looking for something that will last mid priced that will be easy to maintain and we use for tubing also. we can use your advise. Thanks
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- Steven
  
  April 10, 2018 at 12:43 am
  
  For your first jet ski, I would stay away from anything that is more than 250HP. To help you narrow it down look at the chart at the start of this post and stick to the models between 11 through 23 since you’re new. The models between 17 through 23 are going to be the best for pulling people on tubes and having the least amount of “issues” since they have fewer parts to deal with compared to the models 24 through 45.
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Brad Jacobson

March 13, 2018 at 2:32 pm

Thanks much for the quick response and great info! My wife will be happy as she loves the green and black and wasn’t to happy when I came home yesterday looking at the colors seadoo is offering. Seadoo had a leftover 2017 RTX-X 300 I was looking at too but I’m thinking she wouldn’t even enjoy that with to much power response.
Thanks Again and for the Awesome help!
Brad
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Brad

March 13, 2018 at 12:58 pm

Hi there!
Great article above thanks for taking the time to compare the models! I’m looking at two models the VXR 2017 waverunner “2017 because my wife loves the color scheme and dealer has a leftover” or a 2018 GTX 230. I’m a ski-doo guy that runs a 800 so I like the fast response when I hit the throttle, she has not had much experience on watercraft but would like something to jump on when getting bored with the pontoon. I’m nervous that the VXR I may not be happy with as it is not supercharged and I have ridden supercharged watercraft in the past. How would you rate the two in power and Hole shot, do you think I would be happy with the VXR in the area? I’m not looking to hit top speed all the time but just want a quick hole shot out of them?
Thanks
Brad
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- Steven
  
  March 13, 2018 at 2:02 pm
  
  The VXR for sure is going to feel more nimble and have a quicker take-off. Yamaha did a good job on making this craft. Even though it lacks a supercharger it doesn’t need one, its just as fast is the GTR from Sea-Doo who has a supercharger. And you have a shot to buy a leftover 2017, sounds like a win to me. The only reason I would consider the GTX 230 is if you want a super stable and comfortable ride, but if you want fast and nimble go with the VXR.
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kevin

March 5, 2018 at 6:42 pm

Hey there,

Best rough water ride? Also, best dry ride? for example… if I wanted to go out in October when it’s 50* and sunny and not get wet…
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- Steven
  
  March 5, 2018 at 10:12 pm
  
  I would say the GTX, RXT or Ultra’s are going to be the ones that are best for rough water. The GTX or RXT bodies (ST3 hulls) are going be dry and you’ll have to actually try to get wet. Even the GTI bodies or VX bodies are pretty dry, but not as dry as the bigger models.
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Steve

March 4, 2018 at 12:46 am

I like the gti se 155 and seems like good power. I rented a 130 and thought it was a little slow. While I was at the dealer I saw the rxt 230 which looks to be a faster version with nicer trim and only $1k more. What do you think? Also saw the Yamaha VX cruiser ho which looked like a good option as well. I like the comfort and speed without something that will be too much for my high school kids.
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- Steven
  
  March 4, 2018 at 12:58 am
  
  If you want comfort and stability I say go with the RXT. It’s going to be a lot faster than the GTI SE 155 but you can program the slow key to go 32mph up to 50MPH with 3 speed setting between for the kids. The GTI 130 you rented might have had the restrictor on it or the rental key that slowed it down. The 130 is still plenty fast but rental skis get slowed down for insurance purposes. You’ll also like the seat more on the RXT then the GTI or VX, this is even truer if you’re tall. Plus, the 2018 RXT gets the feature of easily adding the ski pylon which is perfect if you plan on pulling skiers. The big downside of the RXT over the GTI SE 155 is that the RXT lacks the reboarding step, that is a must have and I highly recommend getting it added on.
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jaime Fernandez de Valderrama

February 18, 2018 at 10:57 am

Hi Steven , i want to buy a jetski i was seen seadoo and yamaha, wake pro 230 2018 vs yamaha fx ho, normaly i ride in the atlantic ocean with very hight waves, always the sea is moving and i would like to know with hull you considerated better for this sea. Thanks for all
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- Steven
  
  February 18, 2018 at 1:04 pm
  
  I would go with the 2018 Wake Pro 230 because it has the new wider and better riding hull. The ST3 Hull the Wake Pro has will do very well in the rougher water and give you more confidence.
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Mike

January 30, 2018 at 3:42 am

Hi – I need help, have 35 years of experience on snowmobiles, but know nothing about wave runners. Can’t decide between a Sea-Doo or Yamaha for 1622 acre lake in Northern, WI. Key questions:
-Do I care about closed loop cooling on this lake?
-What works better, IBR or RIDE? There has to be a clear winner! Please don’t tell me one is better for breaking, and the other is better for docking. 🙂
-How do you compare Sea-Doo’s 900 ACE to Yahmama’s TR-1 High Output Yamaha Marine Engine?
-Between the two engines, which is more powerful? Does the extra power justify the extra weight?
-Which is quieter? I have a Ski-Doo w/ 900 ACE and it’s smooth as silk. In fact, its one of the few engines approved by National -Parks. I don’t want to wear ear plugs on the lake!
-Meantime to maintenance / longevity? I want to turn the key and go, not spend time at the dealership fixing a v1 product.
-Which is a better designed engine for a waverunner? Yamana likes to say their engine is designed for the water, where the 900 ACE is used in wave runners and snowmobiles.
-Yamaha snowmobiles are ridiculously heavy – what about their wave-runners?. Does the TR-1 weigh significantly more than the 900 ACE?
-THe depth by my pier is ~24″. Which is better for shallow water?
-BRP makes jet planes, how can you go wrong?
-End of day, would you rather have a 2018 Sea-Doo GTI SE w/ 900 ACE for MSRP $9,600, or a 2018 Yamaha VX-Cruiser with the TR-1 for MSRP $10,700? The 2018 GTI Limited 155 is ugly, and I’m not sure I need the bigger engine? The 900 ACE on a snowmobile is very quick…
-I do not intend to use for tow sports, but does it make sense to get a bigger engine just in case?
-My local mechanic says get the Sea-Doo. The local rental place standardize on Yamaha. IBR has been around, RIDE is new, one of them has to be better. 900 ACE is proven, what about TR-1?
-Discount off MSRP for Ski-Doo and Yamaha?

PS I own a Yamaha 115 HP outboard that I am quite pleased with it. Just don’t care for heavy snowmobiles, but am open to their wave-runners. Oh, I own two Yamaha stereo receivers and support their brand!

Thanks for your help!

Mike
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- Steven
  
  January 30, 2018 at 1:59 pm
  
  –Do I care about closed loop cooling on this lake? Closed loop you don’t have to worry about sucking debris like pollen and other lake sludge. But when it comes to lakes it’s not a big deal to go with open loop, the only thing important is to make sure you winterize any jet ski.
  -What works better, IBR or RIDE? iBR is better. It’s easier to understand. iBR is like having a brake and throttle, while RIDE is like having two throttles. Most people better understand throttle + brake as that is what their car has.
  -How do you compare Sea-Doo’s 900 ACE to Yahmama’s TR-1 High Output Yamaha Marine Engine? The Sea-Doo ACE engine is actually their snowmobile engine and the word from the snowmobile guys is that this engine is bulletproof. Plus, the ACE has been around longer and has proven itself. The TR-1 is a good engine, I think it’s a killer in the VX series. The TR-1 is more powerful but it also has to carry more weight while the 900 ACE has to carry less weight but still is a strong and proven engine. Either engine could get my 240-pound self out of the water on a tube or wakeboarding. I’ve even hit 50mph on my 90HP Spark no problem.
  -Which is quieter? You won’t be able to tell that much when both are in the water. I feel like Sea-Doo pays more attention to the quiet factor though.
  -Meantime to maintenance / longevity? It doesn’t matter what you have, service/oil change once a year and winterize it if it gets below freezing where you live. It’s also important to buy from a dealership you trust in case something does go wrong. Both machines are simple compared to the others in the lineups so there is not a lot to go wrong. To be honest the biggest problems anyone is going to run into is user inflicted problems like sucking up ropes and rocks. I have a Sea-Doo Spark 90HP 2014 model and had no issues with it, I put the key on and go. But I also service it once a year and get it winterized too. I also change the spark plugs once a year and keep the battery charged on a solar panel charger like in this post here https://www.steveninsales.com/need-solar-panel-jet-ski-battery/
  -Which is a better-designed engine for a waverunner? This one is very funny. Before the TR-1 came out I would use the same line that Yamaha just uses a motorcycle engine and Sea-Doo is a real marine engine. The best part is that the TR-1 design comes from one of Yamaha snowmobile engines. Both companies want a multipurpose engine and both features that work well with snowmobiles work well with watercraft so it makes business sense. Sea-Doo’s bigger engines in the 130HP and up are more of real marine purpose-built engine than any other.
  -Yamaha snowmobiles are ridiculously heavy – what about their wave-runners? There EX series watercraft are heavy compared to the Spark but there VX series is super competitive in weight.
  -THe depth by my pier is ~24″. Which is better for shallow water? Both would be very similar.
  -End of day, would you rather have a 2018 Sea-Doo GTI SE w/ 900 ACE for MSRP $9,600, or a 2018 Yamaha VX-Cruiser with the TR-1 for MSRP $10,700? I’m not a fan of the VX Cruiser and would rather go with the VX Deluxe instead. But if I had to pick between the GTI or the VX I would go with the GTI SE, mostly for the greater storage + palm grips + iBR + Learning key.
  -I do not intend to use for tow sports, but does it make sense to get a bigger engine just in case? I say start with a smaller engine, all new watercraft sold today are fast. It’s a different feeling when you’re on the water doing 35mph. That may sound slow but its much faster then you expect when the craft launches out of the water and the water passing you and the wind in your face. There is a reason why they give learning keys and slow modes on watercraft, even the small HP ones! When it comes to tow sports the bigger engine is needed for the bottom power or take off power, my 90HP spark can pull me just fine though.
  -Discount off MSRP for Sea-Doo and Yamaha? Price is different for every country and even state. Keep in mind that the cheaper the watercraft the less money the dealership has to take off. Don’t be surprised with some of the cheapest watercraft are going for MSRP, the margins are just not there. If where you live has a boat show then go to one of those as you can often get the best prices there especially if there are many dealerships there fighting over you. Don’t just think about how much are they going to take off of the machine but instead think of what can they do for you? Many of these crafts don’t have covers and if they can throw one in that’s a big deal. Or if they have service plans that’s even better! It’s easy to say how much are they going to discount but really you get more value by asking what can they do for you in the way of life jackets, covers, oil changes as you’ll need those things anyway and you can sometimes come out better this way. Don’t forget if you’re not getting a trailer or don’t need a trailer to ask if they deliver and HOW MUCH. This can be one of those gotchas. And if you get a deal makes sure they write it up on something official with there letterhead and have them sign it as I’ve seen many dealerships say one thing at boat shows, email, or phone and do something else. Don’t take a scratch paper offer. Not saying all dealerships do this but it’s better be safe than sorry.
  
  At the end of the day get whatever works for you. Try to ride each one. Go to the dealerships and sit on them each. Bring the stuff you carry on your watercraft to the dealership to see if they all fit. Even ask them to put life jackets in the front storage to see how many will fit for a real-world measurement.
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Katie

January 28, 2018 at 8:46 pm

Hi I can’t decide between the SeaDoo GTI or the Yamaha EX Deluxe (2018). I was told that Yamaha are better in salt water. Is that true?. I think the SeaDoo has better storage. I’m just a mum with a couple of teenagers up for some fun.
Katie
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- Steven
  
  January 28, 2018 at 10:16 pm
  
  Hands down go with the GTI, it’s not even fair to compare it to the EX models. The GTI is going to be a better ride, have more storage, and will be more stable than the EX. I did a great post on the Spark Vs EX and went into more detail why the GTI 90 was the better machine then the EX Deluxe in 2017 but many of the points still hold true in 2018 https://www.steveninsales.com/lets-talk-2017-yamaha-ex-series/
  
  As for the question on salt water, all 2018 Sea-Doo models use a Closed Loop Cooling system. What this means is that the engine does not take in any water to cool itself (unless it’s supercharged (which the GTI or Sparks are not)). Both closed loop and open loop cooling each have their own advantages but if you’re more concerned about salt water then I would say go with Sea-Doo because of its closed loop cooling.
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Brent

January 25, 2018 at 12:54 am

Steven, Lots of good info here. Owned a 2006 Kawasaki 750 STS since new but it’s getting unreliable and has always been deficient in pulling up new skiers though experts pop up fine. Now, with grandkids all becoming teenagers and most of our riding is on a big NW lake, which can get rough on weekends, we are ready to buy a more powerful towing PWC with less bounce on the waves, and new features like RIDE, braking, etc. Won’t be racing, so SVHO is not needed or desired. I hear that my 85hp 2-stroke is equivalent to 110 hp in 4-stroke..so 160hp might be plenty to tow adults. A reliable PWC DIY mechanic source is convinced that YAMAHA is the most reliable PWC so I’ve been looking at the FX HO and FX Cruiser, but am concerned I’m not giving Seadoo a fair shake. Besides, there are more Seadoo dealers close to us. Thoughts on choice and reliability?
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- Steven
  
  January 25, 2018 at 11:13 am
  
  A lot of people do say Yamaha is reliable but to be honest every manufacturer has there problems. For awhile Sea-Doo had their supercharger issue and Yamaha had there timing chain issue. We must keep in mind that Jet Skis are run rough and put up wet with many going full throttle or idle all there life – that is hard on any engine.
  
  I’m personally a fan of the Sea-Doo watercraft and I consider there 130hp and 155hp to be bulletproof. The 155hp is perfect for pulling people, they even have the Wake 155 which is made for pull sports with its Ski-Mode, Ski Pylon, Wakeboard Holder, and many other features.
  
  If you want a super comfortable ride with a great engine then look at the GTX 155. The GTX 155 got the new super stable hull and you can add the Ski-Pylon to it for pull sports, its what I’m calling the Goldilocks of watercrafts (It’s just right!).
  
  But you can’t go wrong with the FX HO. The best advice I can give is go to each dealership and sit on the machines. Move your legs around on the craft to see where they lay. Try to get things out of the front storage. Sit backwards as if you’re spotting to see how comfortable they will be. Look for all the grab handle. Feel free to bring in your bag of stuff you carry on your craft now to make sure they fit in the new machine. If you can try to ride one. Where I’m at the dealerships have boat shows going on right now and that is a good time to buy. You can see all the machines and sit on them. Plus, when you have many dealerships at one location like a boat show you often get the best price as they fight over you. Don’t forget to check out what jet ski accessories you should get too, I have list of them along with manufacturer specific list of accessories too… https://www.steveninsales.com/pwc-accessories/
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Glen Stark

January 24, 2018 at 1:08 am

Great reviews. I bought the Sea Doo GTX limited 230 last week. Can’t wait for winter to end and get on the river.
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Steve Norcio

January 20, 2018 at 10:26 pm

Steven..at the end of the day, whats best in the Yamaha VX Cruiser HO category? Ill be in salt water, what would you buy?
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- Steven
  
  January 20, 2018 at 10:33 pm
  
  I personally would buy the GTI Limited. The Sea-Doos have closed loop cooling so it’s perfect for the salt water and the Limited comes with all the accessories anyone would need. It’s a win-win. If I had to pick one from Yamaha it would be the VX Limited for sure, it comes with some of great jet ski accessories as well. But I like the ride the GTI body gives compared to the VX body. If you want to learn more about the closed loop cooling Sea-Doo has I have a post on it here https://www.steveninsales.com/jet-ski-closed-loop-cooling-vs-open-loop-cooling-debate/. Don’t forget to check out a list of other jet ski accessories I recommend here https://www.steveninsales.com/jet-ski-accessories/.
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  - Salomon
    
    June 27, 2018 at 1:18 am
    
    Which one is better in speed ? My only experience with jet skis were Rentel and they all only go up to about 50 mph i need more! I’m 25 and all i want is speed and fun don’t care much about luxury and accessories would u still recommend the gti over the vx cruiser ho ?
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    - Steven
      
      June 27, 2018 at 10:37 am
      
      If you want speed then look at the GTR or VXR, those are your small ski with a big engine at an affordable price. The VXR is more powerful and does it with fewer moving parts – that thing is insane!
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Ruth

November 18, 2017 at 7:06 pm

Would love to ask a few questions if i could.
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- Steven
  
  November 18, 2017 at 8:18 pm
  
  Sure, ask any question you want.
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Zinger

November 12, 2017 at 10:21 am

Best write up I have seen well done
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Tomas

October 15, 2017 at 4:24 pm

Awesome break down!! Looking forward to ST3 hull reviews.
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